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Episode 64 · 7 months ago

Midlife Beauty, Anti-Aging and Hypocrisy with Beverly Oddi

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

This week's episode is a fun and transparent conversation with Beverly Oddi find her here on Instagram 

We talk about beauty, botox and breasts (augmentation)

I enjoy Bev's bravery, honesty and complete transparency as we discuss all of the things we do to slow down the (aging) clock.

Head over to Instagram or our Private Facebook Group and share your thoughts!

Hello and welcome to the what women on today podcast. You might be asking yourself right about now. Well, what do women want? I mean we're pretty complex creatures right. Well, I think we want it all and I'm here to export with you. My name is Terry Kellums. I'm your host. Go grab your favorite beverage. I've already got my glass of wine and let's get started. Hello and welcome to this week's episode of what women went to day podcast. I'm your host, Terry Kellums. I'm so glad you joined me today. You know, over the weekend and my husband and I have one of those Google homes and it sits on our kitchen counter and it rotates through all your photos and there was a photo of us from two thousand and thirteen when we got engaged, and he looked at it and he said, you know, you really don't think you're aging that much until you look back at some of these old pictures. So I was thinking about that and it reminded me of a conversation I had on an instagram live several months back with my friend Beverly Odie, and I thought it might be fun to revisit that conversation here today. Her and I talk about the hypocrisy of the beauty see undered. We talked about women supporting women, we talked about some of the things that we've done and I know we're all going to approach midlife and aging in our own way, but it did remind me of a quote that says I can't think of any better representation of beauty than someone who is unafraid to be herself, and that was by Emma Stone, and so I love that. Goes on her instagram lives and she is very transparent and shares the real her and I find it beautiful. I hope you enjoy our conversation today. Let's join that conversation now. Well, before we get started, I would like you to introduce yourself and tell us what you do, because we kind of a crazy story of why we're friends. Right, we do we do so we both have a love for skincare and makeup. But so my name is Beverly Odie and I actually my full time job is a project manager for a Midwest Bank and I've done with them for eighteen years. I cannot believe that I've been in the industry for twenty eight, which still mean you're only twenty nine, like, how can that be right? But I love all things skincare, hair, hair makeup related, and you know I'm I'm a sucker for a new product. I will be the first one in line to try something new, and so here I am selling, you know, makeup and skincare products that I absolutely love. And so that's how we met. Yes, and if you're not following coffee and contouring, you should, because I love watching you. You're always so transparent and you're always willing to share like your your trials and your fails, and you know, you're just so real about it and I really like that about you. Thank you. Well, I just posted. I just posted a fail today, just you don in the last five minutes. Well, there you go. No, but you know what that's? It's and so we've become friends. We've never met in person, which I think is really fun these days that women are so open to encouraging each other and being there for each other when we've never actually met. But we're just trying to do our thing right and we're supporting women and the supporting women, and I'm loving that more women are seeing the benefit of this and seeing the reason why we're doing this because I come from the corporate world and women don't always support women in the corporate world, you know. And then we get we get up here into this kind of space and there's this whole community of midlife women and they're so supportive and so willing...

...to share resources exchange ideas and I'm just loving it. Yes, it's it. I I look at social networking, instagram, facebook, they are networking. We're going to get a dog here say they are networking platform. There a social platform for a reason, and so I have really tried to die and develop relationships and not just like everything. Absolutely get to know the person behind a post. That's and you know, that's how you and I connected, because I really enjoyed the podcast that you did with Jennifer. And you know, I I've met so many people actually carry on here is one of them. We've never met and we met through saint makeup and she's probably one of my, you know, closest friends and we've only known each other since February and only through instagram. Like it'd crazy, did you see? I met my friend Diana Brian Fromer Fragrmin like I did person. It was so awesome. It's that fun? Yes, it really was. And you know what, I have this like total like fantasy in my head that someday I'm going to do like a women's Explo or conference or retreat or something, and all of us are just going to kind of come together and share all of our gifts with each other. And I just had this idea of blown run of my head. Will See if that happens. But but you know, so, one of the things that you inspired within me and gave me courage to do was be a little bit more transparent about some of the things that I do in my race to stay younger looking. Or is it a race? Or is that that? I don't know. It's a race against time. It's a race a good style, where little race against time. Yeah, so here's my thing. So I have this coaching client and I've been working with her and one day she mentioned something about, you know, valuing her appearance and then she immediately apologized for it and I was like, oh girl, don't do that. Don't apologize for wanting to look attractive and doing all these things that we all do every day. And the more I thought about it, I was thinking, okay, we've got sort of a double standard going out here right like. So we have the standard of beauty and you know, US Bein the eight women were fighting against this every day of you know, the clock is taking and gravities against us and you know whatever. And and yet society says we should be youthful in beautiful, and then when we do those things, sometimes we get judged for them. Right, society is cruel on both ends of the spectrum. Absolutely. So you're very transparent about a lot of the things you do, and you did give me the courage to go on last week and talk about my microblading. Got My eyes by Rolls. I Love Them. Isn't it so much easier to get right in the morning to Oh my gosh, it's time Saber us? I've catched myself like in the middle of the day, like scratching and then scratching up walking road when I wrote. Yes, yes, you walk around and you're like it's at your fingernails because you've got like wax or something. Yeah, yeah, and I have mine done and I still, I know, I still touch them up occasionally because I want him to be darker or I want him to be a certain shame or whatever. And that's probably one of my, you know, kind of regrets from doing it back in Illinois and so doing it closer to home is that they do touch them up for you. Yes, I guess it's a good excuse for me to go back and spend time with my friend and I but but, yeah, so I thought we could talk today about some of the things that we do and be just really transparent. Sure, yeah, excuse me, my goodness. So for those of you who are online with us right now want to share this, we're going to very transparent and frame conversation about beauty. If you want to share that, just go down by the comment box to that Arrow and you...

...can actually send our life segment to anybody that you think might be interested. So I don't know which one of US wants to go first. How long have you been doing at that? How long have you been doing like the anti aging game or all thing? I would tell so I would tell you I was horrible with skincare as a teenager and young adult, absolutely horrible, and I was the first one to put some in my hair and baby oil on my body and go lay in the sun. So you know, I was born in seventy three and so, you know, I was an a s s youngster and, you know, graduated in ninety two, and so that was what you did. You went to the tanning booth and you try to be as dark as you possibly could. And so I treated my body horribly and those you know in that time, and those things have come back to hat me through age spots and, you know, wrinkles very early on. And so I started getting Botox in two thousand and ten. Okay, so eleven years ago, it's around. Okay, yeah, yeah, so eleven years ago, you know, and I had, I have had, you know, from the neck up. I've probably had almost everything you can get done done in some way, shape or form, and there are times where you know, all go back and have a procedure repeated, and there are times where, you know, I'm like, yeah, I did that, I didn't like the way it looked on me and I haven't been back to have that specific procedure done. How about you? Well, have well, okay, so I started, and this probably be the first time I've ever talked about this. I don't think I've talked about it on my podcast, but I'm not shamed of it. I just I guess I'm just modest and I feel like once you put it out there, like it's drawing people the tension to things, but it's so inagnant it's the judge. That as what people will say. Yeah, so in two thousand and ten I moved to Arizona from Illinois, and I will say that I believe, this is my belief, that Midwest women are slower to the Botox Plastic Surgery Games and people are eats in the west coast. Right agree. So I moved in two thousand and ten and all the sound sudden found myself in Scusta, Arizona, where all the beautiful people live. And you know the I call it smacksdale for reasons I've never heard, not everybody, but I remember to a mall like a Saturday morning, just like you know, stuck my hair in my wet hair and a pony jumped out of the shower, had to get my glasses, my glasses at a certain time and no makeup. You know Maxi Dress and the way the women looked at me. I think for the very first time in my life I became so aware of myself in a whole new way. I was like, I'm not a midwest girl anymore, you know, like this is a whole new ball game. So I would say over the next couple of years I went through a very stressful divorce and lost a ton of weight, like fifty five pounds, and I suddenly had all this saggy skin and I had nursed my youngest child. So my breasts were very not looking pretty and for the first time I thought, you know, just going to go talk to a plastic surgeon and just kind of see what my options are, and he talked about a thing called the mommy makeover, which does both your tummy and your breasts, and I was like no, I'm not quite ready for it. So a couple more years passed and I met my now husband and I think we're planning to get married, and I thought we were just starting to travel more and I was in a swimsuit more often than I ever had been in my life and I thought, you know, I'm just not comfortable with my body. This really doesn't have to do with what he thinks, because he thought I was beautiful the way I was...

...and it wasn't really necessarily what other people were like looking at me. It was just the way I've felt about myself. And so I went back and I had my head breast implants and a year later I had my tummy talk done and the doctor that I decided to go with offered Free Botox and Free Microneataly. So I got some procedures done that I'd never even thought about before and I was like, okay, I get this. I get this that I can look at myself in the mirror, and that's really the only person I think I do it for, is how I feel about myself when I look in the mirror. You know, if you I think, oh, go ahead, I was going to say so my husband's the same way. So he doesn't, you know, he doesn't understand it. He doesn't, you know, commits about it at all, but he definitely doesn't get the feeling within me of what I see in here. And you know I so I've I've had many facelift, or it quicklift is what they actually call it, kind of and he was like what are you doing? Why are you doing that? And I'm like, it's about me, it's not, it has nothing to do with with you. Or you know, you can tell me how a beautiful all day long. It's what I see in the mirror that I don't like really know, and so it's that judgment, it's the judgment from other people, and then it's the judgment of yourself and you look in the mirror and the you know, the Self Talk. Because have you noticed with some since you've done any of those treatments, that you knit pick at yourself more? That's a great question. HMM, I don't have to really think about that one. A little bit more. I'm not sure I I have you do. Oh, yes, you're kind of looking by. No, not necessarily more things I want to do in that regard. But I notice my botox wearing off right or I'll notice that my lips don't look the saint like. I'll be the first ones to notice something creeping back. That was an insecurity of mine. So you know, one of my biggest insecurities is my smile. I'm very gummy smile, and so I will catch myself in a picture and I'll see it and I'm like, okay, it's time you go get a lip flip or you know, something that helps counteract that, because I don't like I don't like that and I haven't since I was, you know, five or six years old. You know, looking back, you look at my pictures, I'm always scaty. I have really resting bitch face. Anyway, I don't need any more help. It's good of a funny phrases it. So I know women. I friends with women who husband I one friend I'm thinking about right now. Like so a lot of people didn't know when I got my procedures done. I didn't go around announcing it. I didn't get enough of an implant that it was drastic. I am more when in there to get a lift just because of, you know, being a mommy and and having four children and and what he told me is, you know, if you lift then you end up with this concave area. So he just was wanting to fill it in. So I didn't go in. I didn't go in necessarily to flaunt it and I'm still very modest. So I still don't want it. My husband was just I would want it more. But but I've met women who's husband's no, because they're close to me too and they know I've had it done and they tell their wives, oh, you know what you you know, would you consider doing that? Right? And then I have women whose husband's friends whose husband say you're never doing anything, you're not doing botox or not, you're not doing it. They probably don't like me because they probably think I'm about books. You know, if you run into that at all where your your friend,...

...the fins think you're over the top and don't want their wives to like be influenced by you. I. So I don't know that I know of MMM, none of them, none of the men have ever talked to me about it. The women are more serious than anything. Like. What was it like? You know, how kind of what's The aftercare? You know, a lot of those behind the scenes kinds of questions that don't really get answered on TV. Yeah, and so a lot more of that. But I would say the majority of my friends haven't had anything done that. I know we you know, they've not talked to me about it. I have referred a lot of people who do go where I go for my injections, but I don't know very, very I know very few people who have openly shared that they've had, you know, a tummy talk or like ooh, or and plans or any type of reconstruction. You know, that's one of the things I would love to do is is the reconstructor the the lift? Because, you know, nothing sits, nothing says where it's supposed to stay eventually. And I look I look young, you know, for my age. I look young from here up. Yeah, everything below isn't. This doesn't isn't the same age. Oh my gosh, I started going to get my hormone pellets, I get the bioidenticals in my hip and so I started going to a new place in St George. I had been this whole time after I moved. I've been driving back to Scott still get it done and finally get the bullet and found a place in St George which is like forty minutes for me and this place does all this stuff. So I'm sitting in the waiting room a couple weeks ago and I had it done and this woman walks in and she starts talking to the receptionist about what I'm in just in this procedure image and I'm like, my ears were perking. I was like and there's some sort of shot you can do. So I wish I had the list closed by here. There's some sort of injection you can do at this place that I'll here. It is this is. Look at this, is all the stuff you can get done at this place. And there's this injection that you can do called lean like bow and it's five hundred per area, and I'm like, Oh, so is that five hundred for both my arms or is that just what my eyes probably one arm because it's probably per vile. Yeah, I said, my husband with my budget for this. So it is it. It doesn't target the fat and that specific area. Yeah, so this lady was interested in her stomach and the lady told her like, you know, you'll be down for a few hours after you have it done. It's going to be uncomfortable, maybe for a couple of days. I've imagine I'm like like overdoing sit ups or something with kind of the image I had in my head. Yeah, you know, so, I think so. I was going to backtrack for just one second and say one of the main reasons I didn't really want anybody to know that I did the the rest in plants was because there was a woman that worked with us that had rest in plants and they were way over the top, like very obvious, you know, and I felt like the guys, I'll couldn't ogled her. Yes, I felt like the women all talked about her, yes, and I also picked up that she was very insecure and I think that was her whole reasoning for getting them done, was to make herself feel more attractive, but to everybody else and I'm not sure if it really pump into her. So I was very much just wanting to keep it a secret because I didn't want to give off that impression. So yeah, I will say that I think the majority of the women, even in Phoenix, Arizona, close to Scott's tale, I would say they still judge. Yeah, they still...

...judge and I think you're jealous. They wish they could do it and probably want to do it. Yes, so I think if someone, if you were to hand someone, you know check for, you know, a liquid facelift, let's say, so, you know, some cheek and filler and all that stuff, they would probably go do it. They didn't want anybody know it and I I find that most people who do it it's it's about their own insecurities. It's not at all what people are saying to them. It's not that they were ever teased about anything, because no one ever teased me about my smile. I just didn't like it right. You know, they tease me because I had buck teeth and I got braces when that was you know, that's that was normal. But my actual smile no one's ever criticized before. I just don't like it. So I did something about it. You know, the lines and miracles. No one's ever said anything to me about it. I didn't like it, but I think that more midwestern women are doing things now because we're watching shows like real housewives, right, shows where, you know, they've made it more accessible. MM. And you know, more, more people do it here. So there are more opportunity, more locations that do it, different types of locations, and so, you know, there's one piece of advice I would give anyone, it's to make sure you are one hundred percent comfortable with the person, Oh has the needle, and not not necessarily because you're going to get bruised or you know they might make a mistake, because mistakes can be corrected, right, even if overfilling something that can be dissolved. I'm talking about the person you need to trust that won't sell you a package of goods, right, because I'm not looking for someone to good pointing out my flaws right don't go in and say tell me what I need. Yea, I go in and I own that myself. I Want X, not I need, you know, or what do you think I need? Because they're their impression of me is not as is important as my own right. Hundred percent agree with that. I actually loved my my surgeon, and I referred a couple of my friends to him and I have this one sweet friend that she had breast that were two different size for whole life. One was like an a one was like a sea and she was so selfconscious about it. And you know, like summertime and we in Arizona we show our skin so much more during the year than when I lived in r well, and so you know, theres of lots more opportunities to were taintops and swimsuits or whatever. And so she finally, she finally got it done. She is so happy, Yep, so happy, and has nothing to do with wanting her breasts for the world to see so much. Probably has everything to do with trying to hide something that she was embarrassed about it or didn't feel adequate enough in right, and the trouble we go through to camouflage those things when something can be done to just, yeah, kind of alliate that need. I mean, I bet she feels a hundred percent better because she's not trying to stuff anything to make herself even and all the things that we do to protect our you know, to protect ourself from being judged. And I'm so proud of her because she is so much more brave than I ever was because, you know, she just jokes about it and she lets tell us somebody, you know, got brand new kits. I think about she says it. So I'm fad. I've always been of the you know, like I paid for it, I might as well talk about it. We talked about if we saved ten dollars on a pair of shoes. Absolutely know. And and I sell beauty products.

I don't ever want anyone to think that my skin is not as frinkly or, as you know, saggy or whatever because of a product I'm selling. Like, yes, they have, you're very transparent, but right, but you're not going to have you're not going to go from having, you know, drippy drop jowels to a tightlifted face using products. No, that's that's something that you know. That's why I will not use filters on my you know, my filter or my photos. I come on in bad lighting because, you know, I'm just sitting in a chair and I think of something to say because I just I don't want anyone to ever think that they're getting sold a bag of goods. I am. Why shall of you, and you you're so brave, like you even do it in front of your husband. I hate going my even front of my husband, I think because like always in the background. Took it took a long time to get there. So, you know, I've been on this platform trying to grow for a while, that for a couple of years, and I would I would even go into a lawst not have him hear me. And now it's just like, you know it feel started to walk in a room now and he'll say, yeah, it, I just kind of part of the GIG. But yeah, I do this every Wednesday, so my husband knows. Now he always works late on Wednesday so he doesn't have to walk in the room. It's cute. So I have this little game I started to play on Wednesdays and it's a cud that I started following because I was trying to improve my podcasting skills. But he has a company called pot decks, and these are fun little cards and I actually think these cards could be used for so many things, like family events, like, you know, on a Sunday afternoon, if you're doing like, you know, a family dinner or whatever, holiday days, team building events, and everybody that knows about these cards so far has loved them. So if you're interested in these cards, contact me separately and I'll give you a codes. You can say some money on them, but I thought you and I would go through a couple of them. Or they're button. Is there anything else you want to talk about, though, with the like the worst like treatment you've ever gotten, like that you would never do again, or something that you're like, oh my gosh, everybody should try this. So I definitely so. As we age, right, we lose a lot of fullness or, you know, we lose our Collagen in a lot of different places. That's why women typically get filler and the keep a portion of their face, you know, from here up, because we lose everything sagging, we lose the college and so I I will get my temples filled because naturally, even before I started a Jing I have so there there's there's very little filler here. This is bone, so I'm naturally blessed with good cheekbones. But I will get so sallow here that if we don't feel a little bit here, I you know, I cave in and then I cave in here. So I you know, I try to just round that out a little bit and a little goes a long way. You don't have to overfill. I probably would not do my under eye again. I just had that done my last treatments, the first I've ever done it. I liked getting rid of the the hollow here. MMM, is that okay? Okay, look like you have under eye circles like that kind of is that we so? Yeah, so when? So it helps eliminate the pocket right here. Yeah, kind of turns dark. It's really looked...

...like we have bags under our eyes, even though you may not really have a bag. It's just how little skin you have there. So it's now filled with filler so that it's less concave, but it's I think I'm overfilled here. Okay, I feel like it's not as natural looking as I would want. Now will it go down? Yeah, and and I'll be fine with it once it starts to settle down. But you know, Botox if I didn't have botox. The crevices in my brow when I first found that was the reason I started getting botox, was the really deep furrow and first time I could make an expression like you know this because it does. But my daughter was like, I can't tell they're mad anymore now now I yeah, the mom look is not as easy. It's not as easy. Great, it's a little harder. Have you had your lips done? Have you had I've never done the lips. I do get filler and this, this is probably one of the things that bothers me the most, is this start here and so when I get the Filler, it does couldn't pull that back. So that's one nice little benefit of the filler. And then I get I get botox here. I don't have this. I don't have enough of afore. I had to have lines, I don't think. And then these, you know, see, I get these done, but I don't feel like they really it really does much for me right there, because I've always had that crinkle. I could really when I was young. But I will tell you I love getting my lips done just because I don't have much of a live anyway. Yeah, helps with that gummy smile. It is probably the most painful out of anything I've ever had done. Have you done microneedling? I have. I thought that was very painful. So it micro needling different on me? I don't but, but, but let me if you're transparent. I had a quicklift. So I have very I don't have very much feeling, feeling. You're here and like you can touch my ears. I don't feel it. So and that's been you know, I had that done in twenty two thousand thousand fourteen, two thousand and fifteen. That happened to the Mike after my Tummy Tuck. I don't have a ton of feeling down there. Yeah, and so it's scared. Yeah, I probably have a higher type pain. Yeah, anyway, wwie. Now, the first time they did tell me if you are on your period or if you've drinking a lot of caffeine, you might experience the more pain, have more bleeding. And I know you did. They know you for I'm trying to remember, quite a while ago. So I my first time I had it done. They didn't and she started doing it and I was a little ouchy and she decided to Numb me. So I it didn't bother me and it didn't bother me the last time I had it done. Okay, but the baby glow is it's a Minti mini microradling tools, so it's not nearly as deep. So that doesn't hurt all. That's a little wand doesn't feel like anything. The next thing I probably like my I have my mom's neck and I can see it every every year that passes, I have that neck. So I'm that's my one friend, you know, she she wears turtlenecks or scarves quite a bit and I'm like I'm not about that turm like thing, and she's like wait until your neck gets older. We all, like I did, do injections here Clyde Bella, where they helped. It helped a little bit with the fact closets that sit here and kind of, you know, brought my job back up. But that I was so numb under my Chin for weeks. It was like five or six shots of whatever that is, and too, you know, there. It didn't hurt, but then I...

...went numb. Yeah, and I was scared I wasn't going to get the feeling back. But again, I trust my injectors, so I'm like, okay, you know, yeah, if you tell me that's what it's going to do, then you know, I trust that that's the way it's supposed to feel. I have a friend that does her she's had got her arms done twice and you know that. But by arm thing, you know, I can't had this done twice really, because it didn't last the first time ever, because she didn't like the result. Trying to remember, or maybe I'm wrong. Maybe she didn't have a done twice, but she's the one that referred me to the surgeon that I used and she said several things done from him. But I maybe I'm thinking about it wrong, because I just maybe I'm thinking she went back to a multiple times, but she could get the arms done, and I'm like, I was blessed with, you know, really flabby arms and when I gain weight that's one of the first places that goes to. So who knows what the future holds? Maybe the maybe these five hundred dollar know forgo see. We'll see. All right. So let's play our game. Thank you so much for talking so frank about all. I am not going to cheat. I'm going toious believes because I don't want anybody think that we're stacking the deck, so to speak. So here's our first question, really the first, and then I'll answer. Okay, would you choose a shorter life and be super rich or a longer life and be somewhat poor? I'm gonna say shorter and rich. It's really I am. I say that because I would like to have the money to do some things that I'd like to do with my family now that we don't have an opportunity to do, and to leave my daughter well enough off. That's so swint. I'm gone. Yeah, yeah, I think, I think I like your answer, because living a longer life does not necessarily mean a better quality of life. Right, and you know, at least if you're at least if you have the resources to experience life to the fullest, you know, maybe it's better if it's not super long. We'll go with that. We'll go with that. Right here we go. Okay, all right, you thought for booking. I know these are Greeks and there's like there's multiple different ones that you can buy. I saw all of them from him also. You'll never questions. I will not run out. What instantly makes you not like another person? My answer is caddie. I'll take this. My answer is caddie. It's when someone looks me up and down when I rarely dissess that. Caddie. I don't think that I really dislike men when I first made them, and so I was my dad. My Dad raised me all by himself. So I was, you know, an only child raised by a father. So I naturally gravitate some then, and not in a sexual way, just I humber. I'm there's a comfort there. Yeah, and I always distrust women because my mom left, and so I would a woman looks me up and down and I can tell she's judging me, regardless of if I'm made up or if I look like I just rolled out of bed. That will immediately put my defenses up and I immediately I justlike where I think her head is. Yeah, I'm judging her for judging me right, and you know what, I think mine is very similar, because I was going to say I don't like people who are unkind, because I don't think there's any reason to be unkind. You know, if you and especially...

...on social media, like this happened a lot during the election, right, like if you don't like something, somebody think guess what? You have the option scroll. Yeah, you don't have to stop and search your opinion everywhere you see the need for it, because it's do you find that, especially with people who choose to follow you? If you're choosing to follow me and you don't like me, you may not like one thing I've done. I can get. I can see that. I would never blast that on someone's page. I might say something offline if I'm invited to have an opinion, but I never share my opinion in a negative way in front of hundreds of people and I would never do that to someone I choose to follow, because I choose to follow them because I'm drawn to them for for a reason. Yeah, or have you ever been out socially with a group of people that you don't know very well and they're unkind to their server or when you say someone being I have. I have over tipped people when that situation happens because I am mortified, but I'm also the last one to speak up about it because I don't like confrontation. I don't like confrontation either, but I was at the grocery store one day and this person was being so rude to the teller you know that it kept the cashier and I was like, that is so unnecessary. It is totally not her fault. There's nothing she can do to control that. So when I got up there, I looked at her and I said, you know, that has nothing to do with you, right, good, for people's behavior has little to do with you and more to do with them. Absolutely so, I said hurt people, people or people, I told her. I said, I said just brush it off. I said you're probably going to have a hundred wonderful customers today to combat that one nasty person. So just let it roll off your back and, you know what, just try to think kind thoughts towards her, because she probably needs them anyways. All right, question number three. It's going to be a Doozy, Bat, I can feel okay. Would you accept? Oh God, it is a doozy. Could you accept a fatal mission in exchange for a lifetime of support for your family? Holy Cosion, but my family would be fine, but I have the option to not take the fatal mission. HMM, I'M gonna go with not taking the fatal mission. Hey, all right, could I live and still live my family? If I still get to have my family and then we're yeah, yeah, I mean, but if my family is going to be in jeopardy and the fatal mission stays my family way, then then I'm going to do the fatal mission. No, I don't think it's saying that. So we're going to go that that. It was so fun to hang out with you today. I just love you. I love you too, and you're so sweet. I hope you'll join me again so we can talk really my followers have not followed Terry at what women want. The PIG has first of all, the PODCAST is tremendous. It hits on it hits on topics that we don't like to talk about, but our real life and if you are anywhere near Midlife, and I consider midlife now middle s because I don't know about you, but I started going through menopause really early and it sucked. It's it's still sucks, but it really suck, and you hit on those things that we don't want to talk about, our moods, our lack of desire, just all of...

...the things midlife that no one wants to talk about. Yeah, well, you know what it's? I think it's all about community and healing. Happens in a community. So if we can band together, like at the start of our conversation saying when we talked about it, if we can band together a community of women and share our knowledge and what we know like there, there may be healing there. And if I'm bringing some new idea that you've never considered before and maybe now hearing someone else's story makes you consider it, awesome, I'm well do okay, you listen for nothing else, her timber when she talks, her tone, you are so calming. So I listen to you in the car. Is Very soothing. Thank you so much. I appreciate you. Lcome words. All right, thank you heard me on yes, thank you. I will talk to you again soon. Okay, okay, talk to you. Thank you so much for joining me. I hope you've enjoyed today's conversation as much as I did. If you'd like to continue the conversation, come on over and join our private facebook group what women want today, and love to hang out with you some more there. Any resources mentioned in today's episode will be in the show notes. You can find me on facebook and Instagram at what women want to day podcast, or visit my website at what women want to daycom please remember to subscribe, download and share. Leave me a review. It helps other amazing women find the show and become a member of our community. One last thing for you today. You are not alone. You are worthy of love and a fulfilled life. Now it's time to go after it.

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